Feature request: being able to redact, not delete, arbitrary posts (according to the post boundary) to preserve the tree structure @BonfireBuilders #bonfire_feedback +bonfire
@af what do you mean by "user farming design" ?
"Dark patterns", but with an actual meaning. Manipulation is manipulation. A lie is a lie.
A manipulation victim doesn't opt in to be manipulated.
Feature request: arbitrary, federated vote to allow complex, online decision making, and prevent topics takeovers by rogue admins @BonfireBuilders #bonfire_feedback
on this regard, we had some initial chats with @douginamug about porting #ukuvota ( ukuvota.world/#/ ) as a bonfire extension, as we used and liked it quite a lot...
more about systemic consensus: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System...
Also more here: notes.zo.team/fediverse-soci...
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TW self-harm, don't read this if you have mental health problems
@af what do you mean by "user farming design" ?
TW self-harm, don't read this if you have mental health problems
we plan to add a configuration to switch between infinite scroll and load more button.
(Infinite scrolling is often considered a dark pattern, so it would be good to offer it as a conscious choice...)
Feature request: arbitrary, federated vote to allow complex, online decision making, and prevent topics takeovers by rogue admins @BonfireBuilders #bonfire_feedback
@BonfireBuilders feature request, infinite scroll
we plan to add a configuration to switch between infinite scroll and load more button.
(Infinite scrolling is often considered a dark pattern, so it would be good to offer it as a conscious choice...)
@ivan @Tropic_the_Topic what site is this?
it is a mockup we did for an alternative topic page in bonfire
Feature request: the ability to edit one's last post should be enough to correct typos while preventing abuse @BonfireBuilders #bonfire_feedback
Feature request: Discord-like circles API, to be bridged with comradery.co @BonfireBuilders #bonfire_feedback
This is the single most dangerous corporate web portal I've ever seen
@af because they ask for passport number?
@BonfireBuilders feature request, infinite scroll
+Tropic_the_Topic
Trying to imagine a better way to navigate the #topic page and its contents.
The Topic page should ease the way of discovering / read about its main subject and navigate through sub topics.
Much improvements and neat features can be added, I tried to keep it simple to start the discussion.
@ivan @Tropic_the_Topic what site is this?
@BonfireBuilders maybe make the post window close after message sent?
btw the local feed of the playground is so much a pleasure to read 😍
I've been reading local since the beginning lol
good point - we need to add that part - do you have any requirements in mind beside showing the team / permissions ?
not really. my only gripe was it was impossible to contribute from what I could tell. I'm sure yall will flesh out the UX with time.
Decentralized yet Unifying: Digital Media, Normative Crowding Out, and Solidarity in Hong Kong's Anti-Extradition Movement
(the link is to an online page containing an abstract and metadata. The full article must be downloaded as a PDF.
Abstract
Can decentralized, digitally-enabled movements sustain solidarity over time? What is the role of digital media in such a process? Existing studies point to the tendency of such movements towards fragmentation. We focus on the case the 2019 Anti-ELAB Movement in Hong Kong and one of the primary digital platforms for mobilization, LIHKG. We argue that LIHKG users maintain the dominance of solidarity through a strategy of normative crowding out, whereby users strategically promote solidaristic rhetoric and emotions while sanctioning divisive ones. Empirically, we analyze millions of discussion posts on LIHKG with rich text and emoji data. We first document the rising trend of online solidaristic contents despite contemporaneous tactical radicalization. Regression analyses further show that such a pattern can be produced by user-driven mechanisms in sanctioning solidaristic and divisive contents. This study has implications on the role of digital media and the sustainability of decentralized collective action.
From the full article:
In the Anti-ELAB Movement, we did see decentralization and radicalization trends over time, but we did not observe either diminished commitment or internal conflict due to the establishment of solidarity norms. In other words, the tendency towards fragmentation was counterbalanced by the presence of solidarity norms. We argue that such a creation of norms is one of the affordances of digital media. Before the digital age, it would be difficult to communicate and reach consensus across different groups within decentralized movements. However, the presence of digital media breaks this difficulty. In the Anti-ELAB Movement, participants were able to make extensive communication and coordination before and after launching a protest. While such contact is unlikely to achieve complicated consensus in decision-making extensive and iterative communication exposes users to the constant (re)negotiation of the collective frames of the movement, and makes possible the emergence of new protest norms. However, we caution that the norm-generating function is an affordance rather than an essence of digital media usage.
This article, while interesting and useful, is (necessarily) limited. "Decentralization", in this article, refers to the structure of the organization IRL, not to the social platform -- which seems to be some variation on Reddit or, perhaps, Discourse. Indeed, federation of posts might have been unnecessarily dangerous at worst, irrelevant and unnecessary at best.
Since, at least on first skim, the authors don't seem to have gone deep into consideration of alternative social media models it is interesting to ask whether how it might be possible to design an online platform that moves norm-generation and consensus-negotiation further along the spectrum from "affordance" to "essence".
