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@BonfireBuilders feature request, infinite scroll
Trying to imagine a better way to navigate the #topic page and its contents.
The Topic page should ease the way of discovering / read about its main subject and navigate through sub topics.
Much improvements and neat features can be added, I tried to keep it simple to start the discussion.
@BonfireBuilders maybe make the post window close after message sent?
btw the local feed of the playground is so much a pleasure to read 😍
I've been reading local since the beginning lol
good point - we need to add that part - do you have any requirements in mind beside showing the team / permissions ?
not really. my only gripe was it was impossible to contribute from what I could tell. I'm sure yall will flesh out the UX with time.
(the link is to an online page containing an abstract and metadata. The full article must be downloaded as a PDF.
Abstract
Can decentralized, digitally-enabled movements sustain solidarity over time? What is the role of digital media in such a process? Existing studies point to the tendency of such movements towards fragmentation. We focus on the case the 2019 Anti-ELAB Movement in Hong Kong and one of the primary digital platforms for mobilization, LIHKG. We argue that LIHKG users maintain the dominance of solidarity through a strategy of normative crowding out, whereby users strategically promote solidaristic rhetoric and emotions while sanctioning divisive ones. Empirically, we analyze millions of discussion posts on LIHKG with rich text and emoji data. We first document the rising trend of online solidaristic contents despite contemporaneous tactical radicalization. Regression analyses further show that such a pattern can be produced by user-driven mechanisms in sanctioning solidaristic and divisive contents. This study has implications on the role of digital media and the sustainability of decentralized collective action.
From the full article:
In the Anti-ELAB Movement, we did see decentralization and radicalization trends over time, but we did not observe either diminished commitment or internal conflict due to the establishment of solidarity norms. In other words, the tendency towards fragmentation was counterbalanced by the presence of solidarity norms. We argue that such a creation of norms is one of the affordances of digital media. Before the digital age, it would be difficult to communicate and reach consensus across different groups within decentralized movements. However, the presence of digital media breaks this difficulty. In the Anti-ELAB Movement, participants were able to make extensive communication and coordination before and after launching a protest. While such contact is unlikely to achieve complicated consensus in decision-making extensive and iterative communication exposes users to the constant (re)negotiation of the collective frames of the movement, and makes possible the emergence of new protest norms. However, we caution that the norm-generating function is an affordance rather than an essence of digital media usage.
This article, while interesting and useful, is (necessarily) limited. "Decentralization", in this article, refers to the structure of the organization IRL, not to the social platform -- which seems to be some variation on Reddit or, perhaps, Discourse. Indeed, federation of posts might have been unnecessarily dangerous at worst, irrelevant and unnecessary at best.
Since, at least on first skim, the authors don't seem to have gone deep into consideration of alternative social media models it is interesting to ask whether how it might be possible to design an online platform that moves norm-generation and consensus-negotiation further along the spectrum from "affordance" to "essence".
btw the local feed of the playground is so much a pleasure to read 😍
@BonfireBuilders How do I see who own a topic? I want to contribute but there's no meta as far as I can tell.
good point - we need to add that part - do you have any requirements in mind beside showing the team / permissions ?
Maybe because attention on Twitter (thus on Mastodon and Pleroma) is deliberately scarce, which makes valuable contents hard to find. A pretty bad microblogging service if you ask me.
I don't know why but I feel like scarcity is interpreted as environmental pressure and for this reason creates extrinsic motivation, as the need to have better relationships with your environment – until the urban and normalized, but pathological point where you're trapped in it.
Ok my bad, microblogging isn't a bad concept. But its current implementations (besides twtxt and bonfire) conflate the last three use cases.
Microblogging may be good, actually, but Mastodon and Pleroma keep me hooked as well, make me aggressively look for excuses to get people's attention AFK, etc. (Although I'm reading 1984 and that's enough to get mad.) I believe the difference lies in the intents I put when I write something, i.e. that Pleroma makes me write to get someone else's attention. The UX makes it different here.
Maybe because attention on Twitter (thus on Mastodon and Pleroma) is deliberately scarce, which makes valuable contents hard to find. A pretty bad microblogging service if you ask me.
@BonfireBuilders How do I see who own a topic? I want to contribute but there's no meta as far as I can tell.
I've identified 4 kinds of social media users:
- advertisers,
- students and mums keeping in touch with (family) friends,
- entrepreneurs, bloggers, artists, and so on, trying to promote their "brand", and
- outcasts, looking for psychotherapeutic listening (deep, non-judgemental)
Microblogging was a bad idea not only in its usual "Twitter" user farming-inspired implementations but also because as the concept it is, it intrinsically conflates the last three use cases. However I'd like to suggest as well that social media can be genuinely good because they isolate people in small clusters, and this helps them to keep in touch with their relatives. Of course it's pretty bad for sharing online resources to a large number of people, this is why we've got blogs and Gemini, RSS/atom feeds, and links.
Ok my bad, microblogging isn't a bad concept. But its current implementations (besides twtxt and bonfire) conflate the last three use cases.
Microblogging may be good, actually, but Mastodon and Pleroma keep me hooked as well, make me aggressively look for excuses to get people's attention AFK, etc. (Although I'm reading 1984 and that's enough to get mad.) I believe the difference lies in the intents I put when I write something, i.e. that Pleroma makes me write to get someone else's attention. The UX makes it different here.
Om namah shivaya 🙏
Topics are similar to the way a.gup.pe implemented groups on the fediverse. I think of them more like "federated hashtags".
You can include one or multiple topics (using + mentions, which share similarities with both @ mentions or # tagging) is the text of a post, and that post is still published in your timeline and your followers' feeds as usual, and in addition submitted (or published directly, depending on the topic's boundaries) to the topic's timeline and to followers of the topic.
This is different from typical groups where you usually post 'in' just one group at a time, and the group moderators sort-of "own" the post (they can delete it for example, whereas with topics they only control whether the post is shown/shared by the topic). This also does away with cross-posting something in several places, since one canonical post can be shared in multiple places.
In our implementation, you can also add tag something you or somebody else posted (depending on the post's boundaries) at any any time, not only when initially posting.
I've identified 4 kinds of social media users:
- advertisers,
- students and mums keeping in touch with (family) friends,
- entrepreneurs, bloggers, artists, and so on, trying to promote their "brand", and
- outcasts, looking for psychotherapeutic listening (deep, non-judgemental)
Microblogging was a bad idea not only in its usual "Twitter" user farming-inspired implementations but also because as the concept it is, it intrinsically conflates the last three use cases. However I'd like to suggest as well that social media can be genuinely good because they isolate people in small clusters, and this helps them to keep in touch with their relatives. Of course it's pretty bad for sharing online resources to a large number of people, this is why we've got blogs and Gemini, RSS/atom feeds, and links.
Trying to imagine a better way to navigate the #topic page and its contents.
The Topic page should ease the way of discovering / read about its main subject and navigate through sub topics.
Much improvements and neat features can be added, I tried to keep it simple to start the discussion.