"Reality is not a collection of things, it’s a network of processes."
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/sep/05/the-big-idea-why-relationships-are-the-key-to-existence
A bonfire builder. They/them.
"Reality is not a collection of things, it’s a network of processes."
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/sep/05/the-big-idea-why-relationships-are-the-key-to-existence
🎺 Just updated the playground. New goodies include:
- A basic coordination app
- An updated layout and navigation incl. an app switcher
- Many fixes & tweaks (and a few remaining broken things on our to-do list)
An [incomplete] changelog as always is available at playground.bonfire.cafe/term...
The coordination app is the first of many that's based on the valueflo.ws vocabulary for economic cooperation. We're also planning to interoperate with the various forge federation projects for using it as an issue tracker for FOSS projects.
🎺 Just updated the playground. New goodies include:
- A basic coordination app
- An updated layout and navigation incl. an app switcher
- Many fixes & tweaks (and a few remaining broken things on our to-do list)
An [incomplete] changelog as always is available at playground.bonfire.cafe/term...
Doug, that seems super interesting and very well aligned indeed.
Your mention of language barriers also makes me trigger another small limitation on other microblogging services that Bonfire could make better: the ability to express the language used, per post.
Many people (me included) uses 2 or more languages.
- If the language setting is in the configuration, there is only one.
- But if it can be set by post, I can express when I'm posting in Spanish and when in English, so people can filter those.
WDYAT?
Yeah definitely! This is something I've been wanting to do. Will keep it in mind for our upcoming redesign of the composer.
Seems like this could help otherwise: github.com/YunoHost-Apps/dex...
@jorgeluis haven't so far, what would you need it for? LDAP is a much older protocol than OpenID Connect or OAuth, but I guess that means there's things than only support that...
Great questions! This is indeed something I am very interested in and have started to prototype: github.com/bonfire-networks/...
An extension to enable:
- authenticating on Bonfire using an external identity using OpenID Connect
- using your Bonfire identity to authenticate in other apps with OpenID Connect 1.0 or OAuth 2.0
So basically, if you have a specific app/platform you'd like to try this with, it should be possible (depending on what the other software supports of course), but some testing and tweaking of the implementation will need to be done.
Authenticating Bonfire users from other sources
If it's not the time to ask this I'm sorry and please simply dismiss this post.
Imagine that you already have a community working on a CMS or LMS (like Moodle, Wordpress, Discourse, Drupal, etc.) with a bunch of users and a way to manage them (create, give roles/permissions, delete, etc.).
Is it, now or planned in a near future, a way to somehow connect that with a Bonfire instance so we don't need to have double users, one in each platform? Or -in the other way- can Bonfire provide this authentication? One platform to rule them all, one platform to find them, one platform to bring them all and in the Fediverse light bask them? 🤣
In brief: can Bonfire accept/provide identification by/to other sources?
Thanks a lot, and I hope this discussion opens some possibilities. :)
Great questions! This is indeed something I am very interested in and have started to prototype: github.com/bonfire-networks/...
An extension to enable:
- authenticating on Bonfire using an external identity using OpenID Connect
- using your Bonfire identity to authenticate in other apps with OpenID Connect 1.0 or OAuth 2.0
or alternatively we can leave the feed as it is, but showing more context when the user click on the reply icon.
Rather than just showing the replied to post above the composer box, we can show a more contexted set of information related to the thread (We can merge the read discussion and the reply icon together, so that when you click on the reply icon it shows the thread and load the position where you want to reply to ?)
Ohh this is a good idea anyway, even if we add more info in the feed!
I have a suggestion for Bonfire:
@BonfireBuilders #bonfire_feedback
Bonfire does a lot of great things with single posts:
- show them in a "timeline" view as they occur
- according to who I follow
- according to what topics I follow
- according to the instance I'm on
- personal messages
- show them in a threaded view highlighting semantic connections
- according to filters, such as searches for tags, or taking into account blocked users
It is everything that you'd want, but also a bit much. In particular, after seeing the threaded view once, I'm always having the impression that I am missing something when looking at a post. Bonfire allows for quite a rich context for every post, but most views present single posts. They might be parts of threads that I haven't visited before and therefore might misinterpret. I have to click on every post to see it in thread view to understand if I'm indeed missing something.
It would be great if each post would feature some information about its context. For instance, it could show a mini-map of the thread, or display metadata like "part of a conversation started 2022-09-19, 4 participaring users, 34 messages (3 unread)"
If threads were more of a basic unit users would interact with (rather than single posts), it could also be possible to mute a thread. For instance when all your friends start to talk about some sporting event that you're not interested in or whatever.
Things like that could encourage better discussions, as in slower, less repetitive, more interaction with other thread participants.
From a technical point of view, adding such info in feed views without impacting loading times to a point where it's not usable will probably mean we need to introduce caching (which we luckily haven't needed until now, as cache invalidation is famously said to be one of the "2 hard problems in computer science")... but it does indeed seem worthwhile!
The +bonfire playground has been updated with a few fixes and improvements. My new favourite screen is this one which feels like a forum focused on your interests: playground.bonfire.cafe/topi...
You should also notice snappier navigation between feeds and discussion threads, especially when clicking the back button to return to the feed after having read a discussion (where you'll instantly be back where you were, rather than the feed being reloaded like before).
As always, please share any feedback or issues!
The +bonfire playground has been updated with a few fixes and improvements. My new favourite screen is this one which feels like a forum focused on your interests: playground.bonfire.cafe/topi...
Hi, nice to be here.
And can I install extensions?
@the_very_sokol welcome, and hope you're safe as you can be over there!
To add/remove extensions you'd have to set up your own instance of Bonfire (the easiest in that case is using one of the predefined "flavours" which come with different extensions, for example the one called "cooperation").
@ivan
While not happy, "Being the change" by Peter Kalmus gave me a lot of peace in a very budhist way. I am about to finish it and very happy to found it. :)
