¿ L'enseignement 4.0 ?

#humour

did a first attempt: here a (almost) pixel perfect myfeed page: design.penpot.app/#/view/a90... I've created components out of all the main widgets / sections - it was fun, it's true, it is slower than figma but already quite usable imo

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There are a lot of teething issues with Penpot at the moment and I found it slower to work in than Figma. I've been keeping an eye on the project and I provide feedback to the team, and I hope it continues to improve. But right now, I wouldn't recommend it for use in production unless you're willing to make some time to log the bugs and problems you encounter along the way.

If you and your community have not invested serious energy taking advantage of the internet revolution -- if you do not have a concrete set of norms, practices and institutions designed to allow you to use the internet without the internet using you -- you are destined to lose. In fact, you’re not even trying to win.

The “thick liberalism” of the past centuries has been rendered obsolete by new media technologies. The groups who can harness the internet for their own ends will decide what comes next.

re. penpot : is it possible to comment on a public prototype ?

I imagine that lots of Fediverse projects require some technical knowledge to set up. Even something relatively straightforward like "Go to Mastohost's website and pay for a hosting plan" might seem easy to someone with experience, but overwhelming for someone who doesn't know what they're doing.

It would be brilliant to work on removing that technical skills barrier in the open and create a new source of revenue for the projects. That's a great idea 🙌 if there's anything more I can help with, I'd love to be involved.

There might be concerns around having only 1 private company hosting the majority of instances for a platform, e.g. what happens if the platform gets very popular and an investor buys the biggest hosting company of that platform? It would be worth thinking about how we tackle that as well.

In terms of moving the design system to Penpot, I should let you know that you can share a prototype publicy like I did, but you can't share the actual design file publicy. You can only invite others to join via email - there's no option to share a view-only link or anything like that, which you have in Figma. So I think it would be harder for other designers to access Bonfire's design work if you move it into Penpot at this time.

This is quite a sincronicity indeed, because we are having this discussion again with @mayel since the past week.

It makes me wonder 2 things:

• Your initiative is an opportunity to try to develop such crucial feature (both in terms of user adoption and in term of economic sustainability) in the open and together with the community
• We can move the actual bonfire mockups design system from figma to penpot, and try to make it more accessible for other designers to use / improve it

Hey @ivan

I've been thinking a lot about how we could make federated social networks more accessible for people who:

• Don't want to learn how to set up hosting or use the terminal.
• Have a limited knowledge of instances, federation, and all the technical workings of the Fediverse.
• Want an online space for their community which isn't Facebook.

I know you mentioned it's something your team's been considering a lot as well.

I wanted to wireframe a Bonfire setup process which doesn't require any technical knowledge. No finding a hosting provider, and no using a terminal. I also wanted to experiment with concepts which users would be familiar with from other digital products, like "trial" and "upgrade," by offering hosting as a service which can be bought and managed within Bonfire.

My idea is that users can set up a test instance on a Bonfire-hosted server as a "free trial," with a limit on the resources which this instance can use. Once they have tried out Bonfire's features and customised their instance to suit their needs, they can then pay for a hosting plan with a partner company. Their instance's data is then transferred from the Bonfire-hosted server to the partner company's server, and any appropriate DNS records are set up automatically (either for the subdomain.bonfire.cafe address, or for their own custom domain).

Here's my prototype:

design.penpot.app/#/view/27a...

What do you think of the idea?

A Geminaut may argue that micropubnixes, i.e. pubnixes providing Gemini pages and emails, would be social media with consent baked in…

This page does a great job, especially at suggesting that reading on Gemini brings a different experience, a different mindset than one may find by merely reading blogs.

We generally brand the Fediverse as an ethical social media but I'd argue that it should be the opposite: Twitter, Instagram users are changed into breaking other users' consent, while we try to respect it on the Fediverse. We could pitch it as "social media, but with consent (hopefully) baked in" (e.g. contents warnings).

It could be improved by disrupting infinite scrolling, or even scrolling (i.e., Emacs-style paging), but things are improving… slowly, as always.

oh that's nice, I just discovered that in italy are popping up several municipal federated instances ( bologna, senigallia, saronno) ... that would be such a cool use case to work with bonfire

I'll refer you to a Mastodon post which I've pinned on my profile:

https://mastodon.social/web/@baslow/108147342916246779

Microblogging is a form of vanity publishing, broadly comparable to birds sitting on the branches of trees calling to each other. To the extent that posting is the only thing microblogging allows you to do it is a terrible platform on which to try to build real, meaning-producing community.

The Sān people eat communally, copulate, hunt and gather together, deliberate about community matters, engage in ritual celebrations, heal each other, cooperate in child-rearing. etc. It is within the context of a community textured that richly that the practices related in the article must be interpreted. Meaning arises from context. It is very unclear if similar practices, occurring in contexts so much less rich that they barely deserve the name "community" can have the same meanings as they do among the Sān.

I don't microblog seeking to accumulate followers. I microblog to publish distillations of observations I have made, to try out ways of expressing ideas, to share ruminations about current events, and to try to find people with whom I might have more extensively fruitful and enjoyable conversations. I don't think any of those reasons are best described in the language of the "currency of power".

I have a suggestion for Bonfire:

@BonfireBuilders #bonfire_feedback

The current playground instance is so slow that sometimes I don't understand if there is an actual bug or if a request just timed out due to lack of capacity. Would it be possible to give it more juice?

This article (which you may have encountered before), first published in 1969 and added to in 2000, should be of interest to anyone who wants to think about non-capitalist perspectives on community, hierarchy, egalitarianism, and the commons.

#seizethemeansofcommunity